Nyquist
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:51 pm
Good ol Gus is the only player left in the NHL who won a playoff series in a red wings uniform.
Deployment matters.
That's assuming he would sign here.holytoledo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:43 pm So in summary, we could have signed him for < 50% of the cost of Debrincat on just a 2 year deal, got better production and two-way play, kept our 1st & 4th, had Kubalik instead of Fisher or Sprong and let Gus either retire as a wing or go to a contender if we are out of it at next year’s deadline?
And maybe we’d have spent the extra $ on an RD that can stay in the lineup.
If only things worked like that. Nyquist hasn't hit 20 goals in 5 years so there was no reason to believe that at his age he was suddenly going to have a career year. He has a career high of 54 points that he had 10 years ago, so again no reason to think he would get anywhere close to 70 points this season. On the other hand, Debrincat is 26, maybe not even fully in the prime of his career yet and he had a 'down' year last season that was 12 points more than Nyquists career year.holytoledo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:43 pm So in summary, we could have signed him for < 50% of the cost of Debrincat on just a 2 year deal, got better production and two-way play, kept our 1st & 4th, had Kubalik instead of Fisher or Sprong and let Gus either retire as a wing or go to a contender if we are out of it at next year’s deadline?
And maybe we’d have spent the extra $ on an RD that can stay in the lineup.
Oh so seriousStevie_Wings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:15 pmIf only things worked like that. Nyquist hasn't hit 20 goals in 5 years so there was no reason to believe that at his age he was suddenly going to have a career year. He has a career high of 54 points that he had 10 years ago, so again no reason to think he would get anywhere close to 70 points this season. On the other hand, Debrincat is 26, maybe not even fully in the prime of his career yet and he had a 'down' year last season that was 12 points more than Nyquists career year.holytoledo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:43 pm So in summary, we could have signed him for < 50% of the cost of Debrincat on just a 2 year deal, got better production and two-way play, kept our 1st & 4th, had Kubalik instead of Fisher or Sprong and let Gus either retire as a wing or go to a contender if we are out of it at next year’s deadline?
And maybe we’d have spent the extra $ on an RD that can stay in the lineup.
I would have enjoyed seeing the chaos on this board if it came out that Debrincat could've been had for a 30th overall pick and a reasonable 4 year deal for a 26 year old sniper but instead went on to sign a 34 year old player who was surely declining at this stage of his career.
Money wasn't an issue in trying to find a RD. If Yzerman thought he would find a more permanent solution, there was more than enough cap space available to sign one, clearly either none were available or didn't want to sign here.
Too worked up about the game I guess, they clearly don’t deserve to get in with the way they’re playing but just wanna see some playoff hockey.holytoledo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:58 pmOh so seriousStevie_Wings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:15 pmIf only things worked like that. Nyquist hasn't hit 20 goals in 5 years so there was no reason to believe that at his age he was suddenly going to have a career year. He has a career high of 54 points that he had 10 years ago, so again no reason to think he would get anywhere close to 70 points this season. On the other hand, Debrincat is 26, maybe not even fully in the prime of his career yet and he had a 'down' year last season that was 12 points more than Nyquists career year.holytoledo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:43 pm So in summary, we could have signed him for < 50% of the cost of Debrincat on just a 2 year deal, got better production and two-way play, kept our 1st & 4th, had Kubalik instead of Fisher or Sprong and let Gus either retire as a wing or go to a contender if we are out of it at next year’s deadline?
And maybe we’d have spent the extra $ on an RD that can stay in the lineup.
I would have enjoyed seeing the chaos on this board if it came out that Debrincat could've been had for a 30th overall pick and a reasonable 4 year deal for a 26 year old sniper but instead went on to sign a 34 year old player who was surely declining at this stage of his career.
Money wasn't an issue in trying to find a RD. If Yzerman thought he would find a more permanent solution, there was more than enough cap space available to sign one, clearly either none were available or didn't want to sign here.
Not to mention that he plays with Forsberg, who's a legitimate 40-goal scorer. And, there's Josi on the back end with 80+ points, 30+ on the PP.Stevie_Wings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:15 pmIf only things worked like that. Nyquist hasn't hit 20 goals in 5 years so there was no reason to believe that at his age he was suddenly going to have a career year. He has a career high of 54 points that he had 10 years ago, so again no reason to think he would get anywhere close to 70 points this season. On the other hand, Debrincat is 26, maybe not even fully in the prime of his career yet and he had a 'down' year last season that was 12 points more than Nyquists career year.holytoledo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:43 pm So in summary, we could have signed him for < 50% of the cost of Debrincat on just a 2 year deal, got better production and two-way play, kept our 1st & 4th, had Kubalik instead of Fisher or Sprong and let Gus either retire as a wing or go to a contender if we are out of it at next year’s deadline?
And maybe we’d have spent the extra $ on an RD that can stay in the lineup.
I would have enjoyed seeing the chaos on this board if it came out that Debrincat could've been had for a 30th overall pick and a reasonable 4 year deal for a 26 year old sniper but instead went on to sign a 34 year old player who was surely declining at this stage of his career.
Money wasn't an issue in trying to find a RD. If Yzerman thought he would find a more permanent solution, there was more than enough cap space available to sign one, clearly either none were available or didn't want to sign here.