My Dream Off-Season

[blueadams]

1. Trade two 2nds (one this yr and one next yr) for Mark Schifele. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. Immediately extend him for 5yrs at $9M/yr. Put him at LW (where he's a plus defender). He is a top-10 NHL goal scorer. He'll be a fine top-six wing through the end of that contract, through his 35th BDay.

2. Trade a 2nd for Matt Roy. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. Everything Walman was this yr, he was too, plus 20%. Same age. Detroit-born and raised. Fills the #2 RHD role in our long-term core. Completes our top-4 long-term. Perfect partner for Edvinsson.

3. Sign Tristan Jarry to a two-yr prove it contract. He's been one of the best goalies in the league, when healthy. He'll be available short-term because he hasn't been able to stay healthy. We'll be able to pay him above market bc of our cap situation over the next 2yrs. And maybe he'll be able to stay healthy in a true split with Husso? In 2yrs Cossa should be ready, Husso's contract will be up, and Jarry's proposed contract will be up. Decision should be clear then.

4. Trade #9 and #18 for the #5 pick and draft Michkov. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. He's the best wing prospect since Ovechkin, possibly. And I think he'll be out of Russia sooner than later. Especially with all of Stevie-Y's ties out there (Igor, Slava, Pavel, Sergei, etc.). He is the kind of elite scorer we desperately need.

5. Trade our remaining 2nd, and a 2nd next yr to move back into the mid-1st. Sounds like we're giving up a lot of future assets in this scenario...but our two 1st Rd picks in the 2024 draft remain. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. It's a damn deep draft. I like Danil But here...but I've still got to look at C's and LHW's.

*****

Core is starting to look pretty good...

Michkov---Larkin---Raymond
Schiefele---Kasper---But
Mazur---Lombardi---Buchelnikov
Rasmussen---Copp---PK/Banger

Walman---Seider
Edvinsson---Roy
Maatta---Wallinder

Husso/Jarry
Cossa

[Pop Zeus]

1. Trade two 2nds (one this yr and one next yr) for Mark Schifele. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. Immediately extend him for 5yrs at $9M/yr. Put him at LW (where he's a plus defender). He is a top-10 NHL goal scorer. He'll be a fine top-six wing through the end of that contract, through his 35th BDay.

2. Trade a 2nd for Matt Roy. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. Everything Walman was this yr, he was too, plus 20%. Same age. Detroit-born and raised. Fills the #2 RHD role in our long-term core. Completes our top-4 long-term. Perfect partner for Edvinsson.

3. Sign Tristan Jarry to a two-yr prove it contract. He's been one of the best goalies in the league, when healthy. He'll be available short-term because he hasn't been able to stay healthy. We'll be able to pay him above market bc of our cap situation over the next 2yrs. And maybe he'll be able to stay healthy in a true split with Husso? In 2yrs Cossa should be ready, Husso's contract will be up, and Jarry's proposed contract will be up. Decision should be clear then.

4. Trade #9 and #18 for the #5 pick and draft Michkov. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. He's the best wing prospect since Ovechkin, possibly. And I think he'll be out of Russia sooner than later. Especially with all of Stevie-Y's ties out there (Igor, Slava, Pavel, Sergei, etc.). He is the kind of elite scorer we desperately need.

5. Trade our remaining 2nd, and a 2nd next yr to move back into the mid-1st. Sounds like we're giving up a lot of future assets in this scenario...but our two 1st Rd picks in the 2024 draft remain. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. It's a damn deep draft. I like Danil But here...but I've still got to look at C's and LHW's.

*****

Core is starting to look pretty good...

Michkov---Larkin---Raymond
Schiefele---Kasper---But
Mazur---Lombardi---Buchelnikov
Rasmussen---Copp---PK/Banger

Walman---Seider
Edvinsson---Roy
Maatta---Wallinder

Husso/Jarry
Cossa

1- Shiefele is going to be a dog on that contract. Go read what Jets fans have to say. If you wanted to go big on a Jet forward, why not Connor?
2 - Matt Roy is a third pairing D in pretty inconsequential. There's a reason why the Kings don't care if they lose him.
3 - Tristan Jarry lost to the Blackhawks and Bluejackets to blow the Penguins playoff spot in the final two games of the year. So even when he is healthy, I'm not sure he's so hot. Would he be better than what we've got as a 2G? Sure. Considering we don't have anyone else signed. But at what cost? You'd be just as well off shopping in the UFA bargain bin.
4. I think trading up for Michkov is risky - but it's a good risk. But he's not going to help for 3 years anyway. Which makes all these other moves for veterans kind of odd.
5. You've already traded off the Red Wings' B prospects a lot.

TOo much work for 29 year olds who will be past it by the time Michkov is here.

Michkov or not - in almost every scenario, I'm pulling 2 guys I like at 9 and 18 ... and then 1-2 more at 41-42-43.
Yzerman can wrap up the rebuild this draft without selling out for mediocre improvements.

[blueadams]

1. Trade two 2nds (one this yr and one next yr) for Mark Schifele. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. Immediately extend him for 5yrs at $9M/yr. Put him at LW (where he's a plus defender). He is a top-10 NHL goal scorer. He'll be a fine top-six wing through the end of that contract, through his 35th BDay.

2. Trade a 2nd for Matt Roy. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. Everything Walman was this yr, he was too, plus 20%. Same age. Detroit-born and raised. Fills the #2 RHD role in our long-term core. Completes our top-4 long-term. Perfect partner for Edvinsson.

3. Sign Tristan Jarry to a two-yr prove it contract. He's been one of the best goalies in the league, when healthy. He'll be available short-term because he hasn't been able to stay healthy. We'll be able to pay him above market bc of our cap situation over the next 2yrs. And maybe he'll be able to stay healthy in a true split with Husso? In 2yrs Cossa should be ready, Husso's contract will be up, and Jarry's proposed contract will be up. Decision should be clear then.

4. Trade #9 and #18 for the #5 pick and draft Michkov. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. He's the best wing prospect since Ovechkin, possibly. And I think he'll be out of Russia sooner than later. Especially with all of Stevie-Y's ties out there (Igor, Slava, Pavel, Sergei, etc.). He is the kind of elite scorer we desperately need.

5. Trade our remaining 2nd, and a 2nd next yr to move back into the mid-1st. Sounds like we're giving up a lot of future assets in this scenario...but our two 1st Rd picks in the 2024 draft remain. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. It's a damn deep draft. I like Danil But here...but I've still got to look at C's and LHW's.

*****

Core is starting to look pretty good...

Michkov---Larkin---Raymond
Schiefele---Kasper---But
Mazur---Lombardi---Buchelnikov
Rasmussen---Copp---PK/Banger

Walman---Seider
Edvinsson---Roy
Maatta---Wallinder

Husso/Jarry
Cossa

1- Shiefele is going to be a dog on that contract. Go read what Jets fans have to say. If you wanted to go big on a Jet forward, why not Connor?
2 - Matt Roy is a third pairing D in pretty inconsequential. There's a reason why the Kings don't care if they lose him.
3 - Tristan Jarry lost to the Blackhawks and Bluejackets to blow the Penguins playoff spot in the final two games of the year. So even when he is healthy, I'm not sure he's so hot. Would he be better than what we've got as a 2G? Sure. Considering we don't have anyone else signed. But at what cost? You'd be just as well off shopping in the UFA bargain bin.
4. I think trading up for Michkov is risky - but it's a good risk. But he's not going to help for 3 years anyway. Which makes all these other moves for veterans kind of odd.
5. You've already traded off the Red Wings' B prospects a lot.

TOo much work for 29 year olds who will be past it by the time Michkov is here.

Michkov or not - in almost every scenario, I'm pulling 2 guys I like at 9 and 18 ... and then 1-2 more at 41-42-43.
Yzerman can wrap up the rebuild this draft without selling out for mediocre improvements.

1. Connor will cost infinitely more.

2. Roy's advanced analytic numbers are Elite. Better than Seider's.

3. Name a better FA goalie than Jarry (who you could sign to a 2yr contract).

**You seem to have a major problem as a person. You say ideas are bad and offer no alternative ideas. Don't be a douschebag. Don't be a moron. Offer alternatives or don't reply to my posts. I'm sure there's a way I can block you if you continue to contribute no ideas of your own.

4. Michkov might've not even signed the alleged contract. Igor, Slava, Pav, Sergei, and friends may be able to help him get out.

5a. Johansson. Edvinsson, Wallinder, Walman, Maatta. Yzerman won't go into a season with a roster that has less than 2 RHD. Maybe Wallinder can play on the right side. But Johansson would still need to pass Walman or Maatta as a player. Is he ever going to do that? Maybe. Maybe not. He is an asset you can move without really 'losing' too much.

5b. Veleno. Larkin, Kasper and Copp are your long-term 1-2-3 centers, at this point. Do we need to improve that? Of course. Maybe it's an acquisition, maybe it's Lombardi, idk. But Copp is eventually going to become our #4C (aka Veleno's role), unless he's moved. And even if he isn't moved, Red Savage might eventually be a better #4C due to his PK ability. And even if he isn't, how hard is it to find a #4C? Not very hard at all. Velenl is an asset you can move without 'losing' too much.

5c. Ras and Berggren. Neither are top-6 players on Stanley Cup contender. Ras is solid as a defensive player, and as a physical player, so he's actually pretty nice as a bottom-six wing. Berggren definitely is not, though. And this is a team that's trying to get tougher. If Ras is your long-term 3rd line LW, Berggren is your 4th.....and if you're in a Stanley Cup final, you would definitely rather have whatever banger/PK specialist you can get on the FA market than Berggren in that role. He is definitely an asset you can move without 'losing' too much.

5d. Ras. It would suck to lose him. He could be a nice long-term bottom-six wing for us. But if you have to include him in a trade, just remember that that's what he is: a bottom-six wing. You can afford to lose those guys. You can easily replace those guys. He is a moveable asset, if necessary.

[holytoledo]

I really would like to see Ras play an entire season on the wing in the middle 6. I like the potential of something like Ras - Kasper - Copp/Mazur as a hard to play against line that can pitch in and provide some scoring. Definitely would not hesitate to move him on the right deal, but I think we wasted a lot of time trying to make him a C. I can see him in the 50-60 point range on the wing.

[holytoledo]

Raymond - Larkin - Perron
Ras - Kasper - Kubalik
Fabbri - Copp - Mazur

would be my top 9 right now - with Kasper & Copp kinda interchangeable. I’m ok with Veleno as the 4C but Berggren & Zadina aren’t the kinda guys you wanna run out there in a 4th line.

Would love to see picks this year and internal prospect development bump Perron, Fabbri & Kubalik out and bump Ras down to the 3rd line. I’m ok with those guys coming via trade too, just don’t want 30 year olds.

[Pop Zeus]

1. Trade two 2nds (one this yr and one next yr) for Mark Schifele. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. Immediately extend him for 5yrs at $9M/yr. Put him at LW (where he's a plus defender). He is a top-10 NHL goal scorer. He'll be a fine top-six wing through the end of that contract, through his 35th BDay.

2. Trade a 2nd for Matt Roy. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. Everything Walman was this yr, he was too, plus 20%. Same age. Detroit-born and raised. Fills the #2 RHD role in our long-term core. Completes our top-4 long-term. Perfect partner for Edvinsson.

3. Sign Tristan Jarry to a two-yr prove it contract. He's been one of the best goalies in the league, when healthy. He'll be available short-term because he hasn't been able to stay healthy. We'll be able to pay him above market bc of our cap situation over the next 2yrs. And maybe he'll be able to stay healthy in a true split with Husso? In 2yrs Cossa should be ready, Husso's contract will be up, and Jarry's proposed contract will be up. Decision should be clear then.

4. Trade #9 and #18 for the #5 pick and draft Michkov. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. He's the best wing prospect since Ovechkin, possibly. And I think he'll be out of Russia sooner than later. Especially with all of Stevie-Y's ties out there (Igor, Slava, Pavel, Sergei, etc.). He is the kind of elite scorer we desperately need.

5. Trade our remaining 2nd, and a 2nd next yr to move back into the mid-1st. Sounds like we're giving up a lot of future assets in this scenario...but our two 1st Rd picks in the 2024 draft remain. Throw in one of Berggren/Veleno/Johansson or a 3rd if you need to. It's a damn deep draft. I like Danil But here...but I've still got to look at C's and LHW's.

*****

Core is starting to look pretty good...

Michkov---Larkin---Raymond
Schiefele---Kasper---But
Mazur---Lombardi---Buchelnikov
Rasmussen---Copp---PK/Banger

Walman---Seider
Edvinsson---Roy
Maatta---Wallinder

Husso/Jarry
Cossa

1- Shiefele is going to be a dog on that contract. Go read what Jets fans have to say. If you wanted to go big on a Jet forward, why not Connor?
2 - Matt Roy is a third pairing D in pretty inconsequential. There's a reason why the Kings don't care if they lose him.
3 - Tristan Jarry lost to the Blackhawks and Bluejackets to blow the Penguins playoff spot in the final two games of the year. So even when he is healthy, I'm not sure he's so hot. Would he be better than what we've got as a 2G? Sure. Considering we don't have anyone else signed. But at what cost? You'd be just as well off shopping in the UFA bargain bin.
4. I think trading up for Michkov is risky - but it's a good risk. But he's not going to help for 3 years anyway. Which makes all these other moves for veterans kind of odd.
5. You've already traded off the Red Wings' B prospects a lot.

TOo much work for 29 year olds who will be past it by the time Michkov is here.

Michkov or not - in almost every scenario, I'm pulling 2 guys I like at 9 and 18 ... and then 1-2 more at 41-42-43.
Yzerman can wrap up the rebuild this draft without selling out for mediocre improvements.

1. Connor will cost infinitely more.

2. Roy's advanced analytic numbers are Elite. Better than Seider's.

3. Name a better FA goalie than Jarry (who you could sign to a 2yr contract).

**You seem to have a major problem as a person. You say ideas are bad and offer no alternative ideas. Don't be a douschebag. Don't be a moron. Offer alternatives or don't reply to my posts. I'm sure there's a way I can block you if you continue to contribute no ideas of your own.

1. Because he's worth it.
2. LA plays Seattle's game. Skate. Fire everything toward the net. Retrieve. Fire everything toward the net. It's the most simplistic gameplan possible - and it creates great "advanced" stats. On top of that, any team running Kopitar-Danault as your 1-2Cs is going to make life easier for defense.
3. Varlamov. Korpisalo. Hill. Raanta. Andersen. None of those guys, at their age, are going to get a long contract. Jarry might be the one UFA goalie who gets a longer contract.

Our goals appear different.
And that's because our assessment of the team is different. You think that this team is "close" to something. I think what we're are close to is fool's gold.
And I think Yzerman agrees with me, based on his post-season and trade deadline comments.

Your ideas seem infused by 2005 thinking.
When your two most expensive players (Larkin and Scheifele in your case) are on "buy their 30s contracts," you'd better be a cup contender giving it one last kick at the can.
I'll ignore the rest of your butthurt BS.

4. Michkov might've not even the alleged contract. Igor, Slava, Pav, Sergei, and friends may be able to help him get out.

5a. Johansson. Edvinsson, Wallinder, Walman, Maatta. Yzerman won't go into a season with a roster that has less than 2 RHD. Maybe Wallinder can play on the right side. But Johansson would still need to pass Walman or Maatta as a player. Is he ever going to do that? Maybe. Maybe not. He is an asset you can move without really 'losing' too much.

5b. Veleno. Larkin, Kasper and Copp are your long-term 1-2-3 centers, at this point. Do we need to improve that? Of course. Maybe it's an acquisition, maybe it's Lombardi, idk. But Copp is eventually going to become our #4C (aka Veleno's role), unless he's moved. And even if he isn't moved, Red Savage might eventually be a better #4C due to his PK ability. And even if he isn't, how hard is it to find a #4C? Not very hard at all. Velenl is an asset you can move without 'losing' too much.

5c. Ras and Berggren. Neither are top-6 players on Stanley Cup contender. Ras is solid as a defensive player, and as a physical player, so he's actually pretty nice as a bottom-six wing. Berggren definitely is not, though. And this is a team that's trying to get tougher. If Ras is your long-term 3rd line LW, Berggren is your 4th.....and if you're in a Stanley Cup final, you would definitely rather have whatever banger/PK specialist you can get on the FA market than Berggren in that role. He is definitely an asset you can move without 'losing' too much.

5d. Ras. It would suck to lose him. He could be a nice long-term bottom-six wing for us. But if you have to include him in a trade, just remember that that's what he is: a bottom-six wing. You can afford to lose those guys. You can easily replace those guys. He is a moveable asset, if necessary.

All these players who you think you can move cheaply - aren't bringing shit back, so what's the point?
You want to bring back talent - prepare to trade Kasper or Wallinder or Edvinsson.

[blueadams]

1- Shiefele is going to be a dog on that contract. Go read what Jets fans have to say. If you wanted to go big on a Jet forward, why not Connor?
2 - Matt Roy is a third pairing D in pretty inconsequential. There's a reason why the Kings don't care if they lose him.
3 - Tristan Jarry lost to the Blackhawks and Bluejackets to blow the Penguins playoff spot in the final two games of the year. So even when he is healthy, I'm not sure he's so hot. Would he be better than what we've got as a 2G? Sure. Considering we don't have anyone else signed. But at what cost? You'd be just as well off shopping in the UFA bargain bin.
4. I think trading up for Michkov is risky - but it's a good risk. But he's not going to help for 3 years anyway. Which makes all these other moves for veterans kind of odd.
5. You've already traded off the Red Wings' B prospects a lot.

TOo much work for 29 year olds who will be past it by the time Michkov is here.

Michkov or not - in almost every scenario, I'm pulling 2 guys I like at 9 and 18 ... and then 1-2 more at 41-42-43.
Yzerman can wrap up the rebuild this draft without selling out for mediocre improvements.

1. Connor will cost infinitely more.

2. Roy's advanced analytic numbers are Elite. Better than Seider's.

3. Name a better FA goalie than Jarry (who you could sign to a 2yr contract).

**You seem to have a major problem as a person. You say ideas are bad and offer no alternative ideas. Don't be a douschebag. Don't be a moron. Offer alternatives or don't reply to my posts. I'm sure there's a way I can block you if you continue to contribute no ideas of your own.

1. Because he's worth it.
2. LA plays Seattle's game. Skate. Fire everything toward the net. Retrieve. Fire everything toward the net. It's the most simplistic gameplan possible - and it creates great "advanced" stats. On top of that, any team running Kopitar-Danault as your 1-2Cs is going to make life easier for defense.
3. Varlamov. Korpisalo. Hill. Raanta. Andersen. None of those guys, at their age, are going to get a long contract. Jarry might be the one UFA goalie who gets a longer contract.

Our goals appear different.
And that's because our assessment of the team is different. You think that this team is "close" to something. I think what we're are close to is fool's gold.
And I think Yzerman agrees with me, based on his post-season and trade deadline comments.

Your ideas seem infused by 2005 thinking.
When your two most expensive players (Larkin and Scheifele in your case) are on "buy their 30s contracts," you'd better be a cup contender giving it one last kick at the can.
I'll ignore the rest of your butthurt BS.

4. Michkov might've not even the alleged contract. Igor, Slava, Pav, Sergei, and friends may be able to help him get out.

5a. Johansson. Edvinsson, Wallinder, Walman, Maatta. Yzerman won't go into a season with a roster that has less than 2 RHD. Maybe Wallinder can play on the right side. But Johansson would still need to pass Walman or Maatta as a player. Is he ever going to do that? Maybe. Maybe not. He is an asset you can move without really 'losing' too much.

5b. Veleno. Larkin, Kasper and Copp are your long-term 1-2-3 centers, at this point. Do we need to improve that? Of course. Maybe it's an acquisition, maybe it's Lombardi, idk. But Copp is eventually going to become our #4C (aka Veleno's role), unless he's moved. And even if he isn't moved, Red Savage might eventually be a better #4C due to his PK ability. And even if he isn't, how hard is it to find a #4C? Not very hard at all. Velenl is an asset you can move without 'losing' too much.

5c. Ras and Berggren. Neither are top-6 players on Stanley Cup contender. Ras is solid as a defensive player, and as a physical player, so he's actually pretty nice as a bottom-six wing. Berggren definitely is not, though. And this is a team that's trying to get tougher. If Ras is your long-term 3rd line LW, Berggren is your 4th.....and if you're in a Stanley Cup final, you would definitely rather have whatever banger/PK specialist you can get on the FA market than Berggren in that role. He is definitely an asset you can move without 'losing' too much.

5d. Ras. It would suck to lose him. He could be a nice long-term bottom-six wing for us. But if you have to include him in a trade, just remember that that's what he is: a bottom-six wing. You can afford to lose those guys. You can easily replace those guys. He is a moveable asset, if necessary.

All these players who you think you can move cheaply - aren't bringing shit back, so what's the point?
You want to bring back talent - prepare to trade Kasper or Wallinder or Edvinsson.

You are an absolute moron, and a complete waste of time.

1. Connor is the only player WIN is NOT shopping.
2. A) You still didn't suggest an alternative RHD trade target bc that would require original thought. B) Of course...everyone on LA is valueless bc they play a "simple" system.
3) I asked who was BETTER than Jarry? Which one of those goalies had better numbers than Jarry the last two yrs? Thanks, shut your moron mouth. Bc of his injury history Jarry isn't going to get the big pay day he wants and may be open to a shorter term prove it contract.

4) Schiefele, Roy and Jarry are all players we could acquire without giving up much at all. Schiefele will be a fine top-six SC-contender wing for 5 more yrs. He is a TOP 10 NHL GOAL SCORER THAT WE CAN ACQUIRE FOR 2ND RD PICKS, you moron!!! Roy can probably be resigned (if he proves worthy) at a 4, maybe 5 mil/yr price. HE IS A WALMAN+ LEVEL RHD THAT YOU CAN ACQUIRE FOR 2ND RD PICKS, you moron. Jarry can be signed to a short term deal. HE IS A TOP-10 NHL GOALIE STATISTICALLY OVER THE PAST TWO YRS THAT YOU CAN ACQUIRE WITHOUT TRADING ANYONE, you moron.

[blueadams]

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[Pop Zeus]

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