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[Pop Zeus]

jesus christ this is idiotic. No vaccine is perfect, break through cases happen, until we establish herd immunity they will continue to happen.

Dude.
Ontario has more fully vaccinated cases/1000 than unvaccinated cases/1000.
And it's not close. By 25%
Now, it's quite likely that unvaccinated people get a runny nose and don't test, while vaxxed people test 10 times.


Breakthrough cases? That's fucking September talk.

The latest data I've seen says the vaccines are virtually worthless at preventing spread.

where are you getting your data, because literally every legit source disagrees with this.

From the Ontario website. From the German website.
From news reports.
From studies.
The vaccine's ability to fight off infection is strong for about 2 weeks against Omicron and then it falls fast.
By 90 days out - a vaccinated person actually does worse fighting off a vaccine than an unvaccinated person - which ought to be cause for some concern.

Just how often are you planning to vaccinate?

[Resmo112]

Dude.
Ontario has more fully vaccinated cases/1000 than unvaccinated cases/1000.
And it's not close. By 25%
Now, it's quite likely that unvaccinated people get a runny nose and don't test, while vaxxed people test 10 times.


Breakthrough cases? That's fucking September talk.

The latest data I've seen says the vaccines are virtually worthless at preventing spread.

where are you getting your data, because literally every legit source disagrees with this.

From the Ontario website. From the German website.
From news reports.
From studies.
The vaccine's ability to fight off infection is strong for about 2 weeks against Omicron and then it falls fast.
By 90 days out - a vaccinated person actually does worse fighting off a vaccine than an unvaccinated person - which ought to be cause for some concern.

Just how often are you planning to vaccinate?

no they're not, but ok.

Please cite a single study that you're reading.

as much as it takes, Polio took about 5 shots before it was fully effective.

[Resmo112]

Its a real possibility that we have a walk out by teachers and healthcare workers this year. It's been almost 2 years where they've been asked to do too much. Yet, people like Pops sit here and spout pseudoscience from his mom's basement.

[El Jefe]

I became a US citizen this year...

Congrats, Pop!!

[El Jefe]

How is the US's healthcare system changing at all? apart from becoming more and more privitized and in no way like a decent affordable healthcare system?

What?!

[Pop Zeus]

where are you getting your data, because literally every legit source disagrees with this.

From the Ontario website. From the German website.
From news reports.
From studies.
The vaccine's ability to fight off infection is strong for about 2 weeks against Omicron and then it falls fast.
By 90 days out - a vaccinated person actually does worse fighting off a vaccine than an unvaccinated person - which ought to be cause for some concern.

Just how often are you planning to vaccinate?

no they're not, but ok.

Please cite a single study that you're reading.

as much as it takes, Polio took about 5 shots before it was fully effective.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 3.full.pdf

Stop comparing this to fucking polio.
It's a fucking coronavirus.
Like the other coronaviruses - it's going to get weaker as it goes and become a common cold, perhaps.
Omicron should make that obvious to you.

[Pop Zeus]

Its a real possibility that we have a walk out by teachers and healthcare workers this year. It's been almost 2 years where they've been asked to do too much. Yet, people like Pops sit here and spout pseudoscience from his mom's basement.

Wouldn't that be something? If teachers walked out and told the word they were happy to give away their jobs to tech companies.

For the first time in years, Americans are making it clear how important it is to have students in school, taught by teachers.

And teachers want to give away public schools to remote learning companies.

Imagine the tech firms just laughing at their fortune.

[Pop Zeus]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/198 ... ref=twtrec

SCotland
DOUBLE-JABBED Scots are now more likely to be admitted to hospital with Covid than the unvaccinated amid an increase in elderly people falling ill due to waning immunity.

It comes amid "weird" data showing that case rates have been lower in unvaccinated individuals than the single, double, or even triple-jabbed since Omicron became the dominant variant in Scotland.

[Pop Zeus]

Ontario:
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
Around Christmas - around the time Omicron hit - you can see the vaccinated/capita jet past the unvaxxed/capita.

[Resmo112]

From the Ontario website. From the German website.
From news reports.
From studies.
The vaccine's ability to fight off infection is strong for about 2 weeks against Omicron and then it falls fast.
By 90 days out - a vaccinated person actually does worse fighting off a vaccine than an unvaccinated person - which ought to be cause for some concern.

Just how often are you planning to vaccinate?

no they're not, but ok.

Please cite a single study that you're reading.

as much as it takes, Polio took about 5 shots before it was fully effective.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 3.full.pdf

Stop comparing this to fucking polio.
It's a fucking coronavirus.
Like the other coronaviruses - it's going to get weaker as it goes and become a common cold, perhaps.
Omicron should make that obvious to you.

......you do realize this doesn't say you become more susceptible to the virus than non vaccinated people right?

You're right, I shouldn't compare it to polio, its more deadly, and more causes more long term issues, but someone like you wouldn't realize that, because you're literally incapable of analyzing data, as you've already shown, with this last post.