Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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I came across an article recently talking about possible destinations for Kadri and despite all the signings Stevie Y had made, it still stated as the Wings being one of those possible destinations.

So the question I have for all of you is, do you think Stevie Y is not finished and he will sign Kadri too? If so, which player do you think will be moved or traded to open a spot for him?

Or do you think Stevie Y is done and is now all set with the roster? If this is what you are leaning with, what team do you think Kadri will sign with?


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Re: Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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I don't think Kadri ends up in Detroit. I think he ends up back in Colorado and the Avs move Girard to make cap room for him. Byram will take his spot in the top 4 just like he did when Girard got injured in the playoffs.
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Re: Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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I think we might still see a trade or two from Yzerman but no more UFA signings unless they are for GR. Still plenty of teams looking to clear some cap space but few teams that can or are willing to take on money unless they really want the player or they get something good to do it. Teams looking just to dump contracts might have to pay more than they want so they might end up having to trade someone they don't really want to trade.
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Re: Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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It doesn't make sense from Kadri's or Yzerman's perspective.

Kadri will be 32 at the start of the season. He's probably looking for a longer term deal. It'd be too risky for him to sign for a year or two because there's a chance his numbers in Detroit would go down and he'd lose any negotiating power for his next deal.

Yzerman has only 4 players signed past '24 season: Husso, Copp, Chiarot, and Fabbri. Signing a 32-yo winger coming off a career season to a 3-4 year deal would create cap issues in the future, when Raymond/Seider/Larkin/Bert bigger/longer contracts kick in.
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Re: Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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@Peter_Baugh

According to a league source, multiple teams are trying to clear space in attempt to sign Nazem Kadri, and the center wants to be on a contender. He's ruled out teams not viewed as such.

With all the moving pieces w/ teams' cap situations, this might take some time to unfold.
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Re: Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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DocBrown wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:14 pm @Peter_Baugh

According to a league source, multiple teams are trying to clear space in attempt to sign Nazem Kadri, and the center wants to be on a contender. He's ruled out teams not viewed as such.

With all the moving pieces w/ teams' cap situations, this might take some time to unfold.
We still have ample cap space to help someone out with. We don’t even need a roster spot, we can buy them out when the second window opens. Someone just has to make it worth it to us.
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Re: Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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holytoledo wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:17 pm
DocBrown wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:14 pm @Peter_Baugh

According to a league source, multiple teams are trying to clear space in attempt to sign Nazem Kadri, and the center wants to be on a contender. He's ruled out teams not viewed as such.

With all the moving pieces w/ teams' cap situations, this might take some time to unfold.
We still have ample cap space to help someone out with. We don’t even need a roster spot, we can buy them out when the second window opens. Someone just has to make it worth it to us.
I wonder if a trade with Vegas will occur soon. As for a Detroit-Vegas trade something like Maatta for Martinez + 2024 2nd and 3rd. But is Detroit on Martinez's 12 team no-trade list. I would prefer an outright trade for Hague as being the goal for Detroit, but Vegas needs to find a way to hold on to him.
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Re: Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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DelHowLich wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:58 am
holytoledo wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:17 pm
DocBrown wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:14 pm @Peter_Baugh

According to a league source, multiple teams are trying to clear space in attempt to sign Nazem Kadri, and the center wants to be on a contender. He's ruled out teams not viewed as such.

With all the moving pieces w/ teams' cap situations, this might take some time to unfold.
We still have ample cap space to help someone out with. We don’t even need a roster spot, we can buy them out when the second window opens. Someone just has to make it worth it to us.
I wonder if a trade with Vegas will occur soon. As for a Detroit-Vegas trade something like Maatta for Martinez + 2024 2nd and 3rd. But is Detroit on Martinez's 12 team no-trade list. I would prefer an outright trade for Hague as being the goal for Detroit, but Vegas needs to find a way to hold on to him.
They do need to hang on to Hague or at least should want to but that team is built to try and win now. Trading Martinez or Theodore would be much worst for them to lose now while trying to win a cup. That being said, trading Hague doesn't help their cap situation that much. They would still need to dump salary to be able to ice a full team. There could be a deal to be made though but it might have to have William Karlsson involved to clear enough space for Vegas to ice a full team. Maybe something like Karlsson (5.9 mil cap hit), Martinez or Theodore (5.2 mil cap) and Hague (RFA) for Suter (3.2 mil), Hronek (4.4 mil) and maybe someone else that is cheap on defense. Could also put in Sundqvist or Veleno instead of Suter and include Zadina to get Hague into the deal. Wings have enough cheaper players and the cap space to absorb taking on more cap but it would hinge on Yzerman being willing to take the Karlsson contract on to get Theodore or Martinez (much prefer Theodore because of his age and the fact he can play right or left).

Vegas could simply dump Karlsson but no team is taking that contract for free and likely will cost them their 1st round pick and more.
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We still have ample cap space to help someone out with. We don’t even need a roster spot, we can buy them out when the second window opens. Someone just has to make it worth it to us.
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I wonder if a trade with Vegas will occur soon. As for a Detroit-Vegas trade something like Maatta for Martinez + 2024 2nd and 3rd. But is Detroit on Martinez's 12 team no-trade list. I would prefer an outright trade for Hague as being the goal for Detroit, but Vegas needs to find a way to hold on to him.
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They do need to hang on to Hague or at least should want to but that team is built to try and win now. Trading Martinez or Theodore would be much worst for them to lose now while trying to win a cup. That being said, trading Hague doesn't help their cap situation that much. They would still need to dump salary to be able to ice a full team. There could be a deal to be made though but it might have to have William Karlsson involved to clear enough space for Vegas to ice a full team. Maybe something like Karlsson (5.9 mil cap hit), Martinez or Theodore (5.2 mil cap) and Hague (RFA) for Suter (3.2 mil), Hronek (4.4 mil) and maybe someone else that is cheap on defense. Could also put in Sundqvist or Veleno instead of Suter and include Zadina to get Hague into the deal. Wings have enough cheaper players and the cap space to absorb taking on more cap but it would hinge on Yzerman being willing to take the Karlsson contract on to get Theodore or Martinez (much prefer Theodore because of his age and the fact he can play right or left). .
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I think Stevie would rather do an outright trade for Theodore then be encumbered with a long contract. Just give them Oesterle or Walman, and Johansson for Theodore.
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Re: Is Yzerman done with free agents or is Kadri in the works?

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holytoledo wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:17 pm
DocBrown wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:14 pm @Peter_Baugh

According to a league source, multiple teams are trying to clear space in attempt to sign Nazem Kadri, and the center wants to be on a contender. He's ruled out teams not viewed as such.

With all the moving pieces w/ teams' cap situations, this might take some time to unfold.
We still have ample cap space to help someone out with. We don’t even need a roster spot, we can buy them out when the second window opens. Someone just has to make it worth it to us.
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